THE FOURTH CURTAIN

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A guided tour of videogame makery

Hosts Alex Seropian (founder Bungie, Wideload, Industrial Toys) and Aaron Marroquin (Animator/Artist, Game Designer, Playing Card Enthusiast) take you on a tour of the minds that create our favorite video games. We may also wander around in our own heads too.

We aim to inspire, educate and entertain you about the games you love, the people that make them and hey, if you're not a gamer we know you know one, this will help you connect with them too.

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MEET our guests!

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Meet Alex

Host

Hi 👋 - I’m Alex. I started my career founding a little game studio called Bungie. I’ve been a programmer, designer, producer, sound designer and executive working on games for over three decades. I’ve been fortunate to have worked with a lot of really interesting characters in that time. (Hey! Aaron is one of them!). I hope you’ll enjoy meeting some of my game industry friends as we take you on a guided tour of the game maker’s studio.

Meet AAron

HOsT

Yo! 😎 - I’m Aaron and I’ve been in the games industry for over 20 years. I’ve been contributing to it via Game Design, Art & Animation, and my personal favorite Voice Over! I’m currently designing playing cards and games for my project Diggo Decks. I’ve been working alongside Alex for most of my career and I’m excited to hear what other game developers share with us. Let’s get it!

Meet DOUG

Community Manager

Hi, I’m Doug. Pemmican enthusiast, otter whisperer and all round bon vivant, I’ve worn a bunch of hats during my 30 years in the game industry. Like Aaron, also a big fan of voice acting. I’ve worked with these two fellows for a long time and have enjoyed every bit of it. Excited to help bring some deep cuts from videogame history to the light of day!

Meet Ulysses

Researcher

Hi, I'm Professor Ulysses Markwell. I'm an extraterrestrial anthropologist who is often called in to analyze data from SETI searches, mysterious artifacts and other unexplained phenomena. I also teach periodic courses at Columbo University.

My client list includes the CIA, The Iceland Institute for Introspection and Conagrow. My work sometimes attracts the attention of outside groups who are interested in my research, and there's a community of fans at The Third Curtain who follow my work. You can learn more here.

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Edited and Mastered by Bryen Hensley at Noisefloor Sound Solutions in Chicago